Questions tagged [mnemonic-seed]

Mostly BIP39, an open standard for encoding a seed as a series of common words, but also collects other methodologies.

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Is there a reason to why Bitcoin Core does not implement BIP39?

Is there a specific reason to why BIP39 isn't added to Bitcoin Core? Seems very trivial to add and am confused to why it isn't there.
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Practical way to split a bip39 seed into a 2 out of 3 factor auth?

I want to keep off-site paper-backups of my seed, but that increases the risk of a physical attack. Can I somehow split my Mnemonic Code into three parts that I only need two of to recover my trezor?
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Is the Electrum seed compatible with other wallets?

Apologies if this is a simple question - a newbie here! I'm trying to understand backups. If I use Electrum to make a back up (including the 12 word seed password), will I then need to use Electrum to ...
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Does BIP39 mnemonic construction avoid repeating words?

Will all 24 words of a seed-phrase be unique by specification? Or is it possible for a word to occupy two positions (ie the word "tool" is #8 AND #20 in a valid, securely generated seed)
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BIP39 Manual Phrase Calculations - How are Multiple checksums valid?

Need some help understanding the math regarding why multiple checksums work for mnemonic phrase generation (BIP39). Let's assume a 12 word passphrase. If we divide the 2048 wordlist into groups of 16 ...
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Will Electrum mnemonic seeds be forward compatible with all future versions of Electrum?

If I use the newest version of Electrum (2.6.4) to create a mnemonic seed and the current source code (2.6.4) later becomes unavailable, will I be still able to use a mnemonic seed I create now with ...
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How to restore wallet from 15-word seed mnemonic?

The wallet was created around Feb 2013, using unknown wallet software. All that is known is a passprase, and 15 words. I suspect the passphrase was used to encrypt the wallet, and is probably ...
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Pros/Cons/Limitations of Mnemonic Phrases - BIP39

BIP39 mnemonic phrases replace considerations about how to store one private key, with considerations about how to store the seed to a series of private keys. The idea is that the private keys are ...
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How to generate specific private keys from 12-word backup and wallet address?

A single seed can lead to billions of addresses. Some wallets are unable to scan and find all used addresses. Is it a way to infer the private key from 12-word backup and wallet ID / (public key). ...
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How to generate recovery phrase from private key

I created a brain wallet with a non standard phrase. So I have that, the private and public keys. Now this wallet app wants a 12 word recovery phrase to set up the wallet. How can I convert what I ...
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What's the relationship between SLIP39 and BIP39?

Trezor's SLIP39 makes it possible to apply Shamir's secret sharing to a Bitcoin wallet seed. How do SLIP39 and BIP39 relate to each other? I.e. it seems possible to derive SLIP39 from BIP39 words ...
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How many combinations are there from the BIP32 mnemonic list?

As I understand for BIP32. There are 2048 words. 12 words would give you 2048^12 combinations. However, not all combinations are valid because of the checksum, so how do i calculate the actual space?...
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How much entropy is lost alphabetising your mnemonics?

Yes I know this is a horrible idea and not BIP39 compliant, but please help satisfy my curiosity with this "thought experiment" and applied maths exercise. Two questions, one for 12 words, ...
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Lost my Bitcoin wallet and have only 11 out of 12 mnemonic seed phrase words. How can I get my Bitcoins?

I am new to the whole Bitcoin thing, and I am having my first attempt almost going sour. I lost where I created my wallet. I have my Bitcoin address and only 11 of my mnemonic seed phrase words (of 12)...
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Recovering a HD wallet from a partial seed phrase

I am attempting to help recover a wallet where the owner only wrote down 11 of the 12 words in the seed phrase. Initially, I thought the task would be a quick and well-defined, but it appears to be a ...
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Am I safe if 16 words in my 24 word seed are leaked?

I use a 24 word seed for my private key. I split the 24 words into 16 words in three pieces of paper, so one needs to have at least two pieces of paper to recover the wallet. However my question is, ...
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Should the BIP 39 mnemonic sentence checksum be eliminated from the standard? Does it do more harm than good?

Should the BIP 39 checksum be eliminated from the standard? Should the BIP39 checksum be made optional to improve security?
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Can I "duplicate" a wallet using a backup phrase (12 words)?

My understanding is that a wallet isn't a wallet at all*, it doesn't hold my coins, but it's a key store; my coins are of course "stored" as records of the events on the blockchain. Imagine ...
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How to generate public and private key pairs from the 12 seed words in python

I basically followed the instructions here How to generate mycelium addresses from the 12 words in python So my code is similar: from bip32utils import BIP32Key from bip32utils import BIP32_HARDEN ...
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In HD Wallet recovery how does the wallets know which addresses to recover

I have been reading the BIP32 proposal explaining how HD works but it didn't mention on any point how one wallet in one phone can recover from a simple mnemonic seed. Does it just try all possible ...
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How does BIP 39 mnemonic work?

As I already understood the mnemonics are the private key separated in 12 words which joined together in the very same order produces the private key. How are mnemonics generated? Why Ledger ...
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How convert a mnemonic phrase back and forth between different number of words?

I'm relatively new to cryptocurrencies in general and I've tried using Bitcoin and a few altcoins, but it always bothers me that some digital assets are not available in all wallets. To my ...
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What is a mnemonic frequency analysis and why do I only need 4 letters of my seed words?

Cryptosteel only allows to store the first 4 letters of each word of my mnemonic seed, the FAQ tells me why: [...] you only need to assemble the first 4 letters of each word. Those 4 letters are ...
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What is 'birthday' in the context of BIP39 / Lightning seed generation?

In this talk about Lightning Network, roasbeef speaks about BIP39 as having no support for 'birthdays'. What does that mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXY0L8eeG3k minute 22
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How to generate a valid hash for a bip39 seed phrase?

I'm trying to prove to myself that I understand how bip39 seed phrases work... I'm doing most of this in a spreadsheet because I thought it would be easier but I'm having trouble with the checksum ...
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How to generate mycelium addresses from the 12 words in python

I am trying to re-generate the receiving addresses (and change addresses, for that matter) my mycelium wallet has generated. So far I've used trezor's implementation of BIP39 to generate the entropy ...
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How to recover private key from 12-word passphrase?

I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who knows how to retrieve your private key using your 12-word passphrase? Your advice is much appreciated
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Is the "recovery phrase" generated by a wallet app platform independent?

I recently started a wallet with Coinbase Wallet, and I was asked to backup a 12 word "recovery phrase" that is supposed to be able to recover my wallet in the event that I delete the app from my ...
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Manually extracting ledger nano s wallet public / private keys using "Mnemonic Code Converter" from ledger

I have the following example seed: morning twist board pelican denial retire middle inherit evil ritual omit fade general toddler grace evoke recipe sad minor destroy public dawn scissors cube ...
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Importing 24 word mnemonic to bitcoin-qt

How can I import my 24 word mnemonic seed into bitcoin-qt? I think that I will have to convert it to some other format but I don't know how to do that nor what format to use. BIP 39 does not work.
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Are there any HD Bitcoin mobile wallets with the mnemonic seed in traditional Chinese?

If not, what would be the easiest way to modify an open source iOS/Android wallet (eg copay) to do this?
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Python library for Multisignature HD wallets

Is there is any python library is available that allow creation of Multisignature HD wallets ?
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How to get my 24 word seed using bitcoin-cli

I've tried: bitcoin-cli sethdseed 'word1 word2 ...' but i got invalid private key. please help me getting my 24 word seed using bitcoin core
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Bruteforce bitcoin address - I know the words + public address but not the order

I have a long list of 1million+ permutations of a 12 word BIP39 seed. How can I try them all on a bitcoin address? edit: I know the address and the 12 words but i don't know the order of the words
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Electrum 2.0: non-BIP39/32 standardisation complicates matters immensely. Why?

Electrum 2.0 has been causing me some frustration, insofar as it seems to be a non-standard implementation of BIP32/BIP39 (HD wallets, mnemonic seed, respectively). The wallet in question is a 2of2 ...
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Is the 12-word phrase app-specific?

I'm new to Bitcoin and trying to understand it, step by step. I tried to make a wallet using Electrum. This gave me 12 words which seem to allow me to regenerate my wallet's private key. When trying ...
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Why is it bad to split up a wallet seed redundantly?

I have been reading a lot about wallet security and this seems to be universally considered a bad idea (see for example this video or this answer), but I am struggling to see why it is not a good ...
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What software can I use to calculate my private key from a seed (e.g. Trezor or Ledger)?

I want to make sure I can use my seed from Trezor or Ledger (or others) in a backup process without using an actual Trezor or Ledger to do it. I have to find out my private key. I probably also need ...
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Are BIP39 mnemonics generated with a French list compatible with software that expects English words?

BIP39 specifies different word lists in different languages. But I wonder if the word list generated by a software that gives me French words (e.g. Copay on iOS) can be used to re-create the same ...
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How do HD wallets use mnemonic to recover all private keys?

As I understand, a wallet like BRD wallet can have many private keys and receiving addresses. When I give them the mnemonic, how do they re-generate all of the relevant private keys from that ...
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Why are Electrum 2.x mnemonic sentences thirteen words long?

The 2.x version of Electrum uses mnemonic sentences that are 13 words long. However, 1.x versions use a sentence only 12 words long. I realize that 2.x changed the derivation of key pairs ...
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I've inherited BTC, how do I recover and sell it?

Update>>> I have the 12 word phrase and the 34 letter and number address for wallet... Mom passed away the day after Thanksgiving. I have all her paperwork and mine as I was her only child. I ...
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16 word recovery phrase for blockchain wallet not working

I downloaded my blockchain wallet but now i forget the password and my recovery phrase is 16 word, so I tried them but they are not working. Can somebody please help me?
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Mnemonic seed language options

How many languages are mnemonic seeds currently offered in other than English? Does the entropy for different languages depend on the number of words the relevant dictionary has available to draw ...
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Mnemonic seed BIP 39 HD wallet with vanity address

Can we create a mnemonic seed BIP 39 HD wallet with vanity address for LITECOIN, if yes, how?
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Automate Bip39 seed recovery

I recently was locked out of my Ledger NanoS when I forgot the pin code. Upon trying to reset from my recovery phrase I realized that I only have 23 of the 24 required words (not sure how it happened ...
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Can someone explain *simply*, but precisely, how the mnemonic seed phrase is used to produce the bip39 seed

Im referencing https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ I understand how the words are generated ("bip39 mnemonic" at the link). But Im not quite clear on how the words give rise to "bip39 seed&...
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Who store seed phrases data

Seed phrases seem to be pretty secure, approximately as strong as bitcoin private key according to this site https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Seed_phrase. But who store the private key adresses of these ...
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Can you use bitcoin seed phrase to create/restore lightning wallet?

Lets say I already have a hardware wallet or existing Bitcoin wallet with seed phrase. I want to now create a lightning wallet on a new device. Rather than starting a whole new Bitcoin wallet via some ...
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Migrate old Bitcoin Core wallet to Trezor

I have an old Bitcoin Core wallet, and recently bought a trezor. I wanted to use it, but I am unsure how to migrate it. While I can access it with my password, I do not know how to find its 12-word ...

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