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Questions tagged [orphaned-blocks]

A block whose parent is not available to the client. Often falsely used for [stale-block].

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Why do large blocks increase the probability of chain reorgs?

After the recent two chain reorgs taking place in Bitcoin Cash SV, I am finding a number of developers stating that large blocks are the reason for the reorgs: "Almost each time someone is trying to ...
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What happens if you receive a block with an unknown previous hash in the header

I searched this question and couldn't find an answer to the following scenario. Block 4440 gets mined at 10:00 AM Block 4441 gets mined at 10:01 AM Lets assume I receive Block 4441 first and 4440 ...
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Obtaining historical orphaned blocks (chaintips) without old node

I'm attempting to do some research surrounding orphaned blocks within the Bitcoin network. From my understanding the best and really only way to obtain data for blocks that no longer exist in the main ...
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Transaction in orphaned block question

This is a theoretical question. Assuming that a transaction (TX_A) with me on the receiving end gets added to the blockchain, I should be able to spend the amount I received. So I go on and spend it ...
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Actual probabilty of orphaned blocks in Bitcoin

If two miners mine the next block at similar times there will be a "fork" in the chain, with one block being accepted, and the other one becoming "orphaned". What is the probability for this event to ...
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What happens to rejected transactions ( i.e double spend or invalid transactions)?

Do they get put in an orphaned block or not get put into any block at all?
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Is there a webpage showing some of the latest orphaned blocks?

Blockchain.info has a couple pages about orphans, but the chart page does not agree with the list page. My admittedly brief search for a page that shows orphans didn't turn up anything that was ...
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What will happen if i change the checkpoint data from bitcoin source code and try to synchronice with blockchain?

Suppose i have fully synchronosed bitcoin node running in my local machine and i change its checkpoints data apart from its genesis block and recompile the code. Now what will happen when i try to run ...
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How to return Tx to mem pool from orphan block

This question is centered around the implementation of how transactions on an orphan block return to the mem pool. In my understanding, once a block becomes orphan all it's transactions (that aren't ...
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Is “fee higher than block reward” attack possible?

Imagine the following scenario: I send you 1000 BTC. After 6 confirmations, you give me what I bought. I create another transaction with 900 BTC to my own wallet and 100 BTC as transaction fee, using ...
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Duplicate of blocks in blockchain

There is some strange TX 9c7b0d0423af64e81c4b850bae781e41077586a9e3328f5048f8367c6e4a8212 that doubled in blockchain local database. Blockchain.info information is truly interesting. Is it a scum ...
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Mining Fee for the blocks that are orphaned

Suppose a miner mined a block and the block got added in the main chain of the block chain. He must have got his mining fee then. Now suppose that due to a fork sometimes later, the block that he ...
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Orphan block payment maturity

I know that the outputs coinbase transaction can be spent only after receiving 100 confirmations. So is it that a miner who mined an orphan block receives the outputs of coinbase transaction but can ...
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Shorter Chains in blockdata

Assuming two blocks are published at exactly the same time, a race for the next block to be added to one of them begins, which eventually one chain will eventually win. My question: will the shorter ...
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orphaned transaction how to find parent

basically a newbie and received mining transactions from a pool in 2013/14. cannot remember which pool. recently pulled out wallet.dat and now have TXs which are not in the mempool with 0 ...
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Are no orphaned blocks mined in the Bitcoin network?

I can't find orphaned blocks in the Bitcoin network from July with references to blockchain.info. Does this mean the bitcoin network centralization? I like C. Decker's paper "Information Propagation ...
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Remove Orphan blocks from “personal” blockchain

Alright, so I've been trying to learn a little more about the blockchain and blockchain-development lately. For every other altcoin, I've noticed that there's such a thing as a bootstrap.dat-file ...
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blockchain. How worked at the beginning?

I would know some things about the creation of a blockchain for cryptocurrency (I let assume for simplicity Bitcoins). I red online that miners verify the blockchain, and when they verify a block, ...
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Orphan Blocks rate

What are the factors affecting the rate of orphan blocks? The one I can think of is network latency, the higher it is, the higher the rate of orphan blocks. Any other suggestions?
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Orphaned (non referenced) blocks list

Orphan block is a block that doesn't have a known parent in the longest block chain. As I understand, this mean that orphaned block does not have a reference on it as "previous block hash" in any ...
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Is there a visualisation tool for discarded block chains in Bitcoin?

A lot of papers about cryptocurrencies explain the concept of the "longest chain", which goes along with these kind of figures: I was wondering if there exist any kind of visualisation tool for these ...
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Probability of Orphaned Blocks

This is a question regarding the probability of orphaned blocks depending on the block interval. I am using Bitcoin vs Litecoin as an example. Assuming equal hash rate and number of transactions, ...
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Tie Breaker to reduce orphaned chains?

When two different miners find the same block number at roughly the same time, the chain is forked, and there is a bit of a race to develop a longer chain, leaving the alternative orphaned. Why is ...
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Bitcoinj stuck after chain split

I am using LevelDBFullPrunedBlockStore as a BlockChain. once in every 2-3 chainsplit in the network my bitcoinJ node stops to download new block. The scenario is always the same 1)My node get block ...
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Double spend question during fork

What happens to a double spend during a fork where one of the transactions are in a orphaned block and the other in the main chain? 2 transactions get broadcasted in the network and 2 conflicting ...
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Why are orphans called orphans? [duplicate]

An orphan does not have parents. On the other hand an orphaned block has a parent but no children. So shouldn't it be called barren rather than orphan?
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How can I trust a new block broadcated on the network?

I have a giant hole in my understanding! I recently started using https://github.com/sebicas/bitcoin-sniffer which is a Python script that lets you connect to any node on the Bitcoin Network and ...
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Understanding transactions in orphan blocks

This is in regards to Testnet. I found a transaction that was confirmed in two blocks that were 106 blocks apart (923,255 & 923,149). Block 923,149 is part of the main chain and 923,255 was ...
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Can there be stale blocks in “header first” implementation?

The Bitcoin developer guide mentions stale blocks as not being in the longest chain, then moves on to orphan blocks. It states you don't get orphan blocks, "and if you do" they are just dropped. But ...
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How should a node deal with a block that is not connected to the chain?

Suppose I am a node in the Bitcoin protocol and I receive a block that does not point to any block in my current chain. Should I keep it on the side, waiting for missing intermediate ones? Should I ...
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Get as many blocks as possible (stale, invalid, orphans)

I would like to download (and access) as much blocks as possible - including stale (extinct) blocks, orphans blocks and invalid blocks. I have 0.11 official client. My node is already synchronized but ...
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Selfish Mining: stale or orphan?

In terms of a selfish attack many sources speak of orphaned blocks, i.e. blocks that are not on the main chain and thus not paying any coinbase transaction to its miner. Still I'm not sure and ...
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What does it mean when a block is “kicked”?

While mining on a NOMP mining pool, I noticed that when you add the confirmed blocks and pending blocks together, they rarely add up to the total blocks found. It is my understanding that the missing ...
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Conflicted transactions in blockchain reorganizations

When my service detects a conflicted transaction (either sent or received) it rollbacks everything that was logically built upon this transaction. The "problem" is that transactions can go from ...
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Transactions within orphaned blocks

Scenario: You are running a bitcoind node and listening to the incoming blocks/transactions. You receive TX 1 which is put into your mempool. Block A is mined, and includes TX 1, which is ...
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Strongest vs Longest chain and orphaned blocks

Satoshi writes at the bottom of page 3 of his white paper that "If two nodes broadcast different versions of the next block simultaneously, some nodes may receive one or the other first. In that case, ...
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Longest “natural” fork [duplicate]

Once a day, roughly, two competing blocks with the same height are mined, which leads to one of them being orphaned. Was there ever a "natural" case in which the fork lasted for two rounds? By ...
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What is block forwarding logic of the Satoshi Client?

Could anyone explain in simple words what does the reference client do when it receives a orphan, stale or best-chain block regarding sending "inv", "block" and "getdata" commands? An interaction ...
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Can someone explain this double spend on blockchain.info?

I'm confused by double-spend linked below, in which both transactions ended up in blocks mined by different miners. Specifically, I'm wondering if there's any way to tell what exactly happened based ...
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Block orphaned by same miner?

Just noticed 2 conflicting blocks by the same pool. One of the blocks was naturally orphaned, but why would the same pool broadcast 2 such blocks? Does it happen often?
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What happens when you send a transaction that ends up in an orphaned block. Is it recoverable?

I've found a lot of information regarding orphan blocks, but I can't find an answer to this simple question. If I send a payment to a user and my transaction happens to end up in an orphaned block, ...
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How does a Bitcoin client efficiently change forks?

Occasionally, a Bitcoin client will come across a fork of blocks that is longer than the chain it is currently on. Depending on how often orphaned blocks occur, this could be quite often. When this ...
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Who wins the race for multiple valid blocks mined at the same time?

From my understanding, a SHA256 hash is generated by a miner and if the hash is less than a specific value, it is passed to its peers. That said, It's possible for multiple hashes to be created at ...
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How can pool operators reduce the number of orphaned blocks that they mine?

Every time a pool mines a orphaned block, that is wasted effort for the pool. In an interest to increase pool efficiency and overall network efficiency, what can a pool do to increase efficiency ...
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What happens if two miners mine the next block at the same time?

The process of mining as described in the answer to this question is simultaneously repeated by multiple miners. Is it possible for two miners to find the next block at the same instant? If it is, ...
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What are orphaned and stale blocks?

If I understand it right, a stale block is a block for which an earlier confirmation has been found and was accepted by majority of people. This block is considered invalid and is later never used. ...
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How will a massive increase in hashpower affect orphan rates?

Difficulty always lags behind a little. It is also limited in how large adjustments it makes each time. What if the (global) hashrate doubles overnight? What if it quadruples? How much can we expect ...
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Getting orphaned Blocks from the Blockchain

I'm very interested in doing some analysis of orphaned blocks, but to do so I'd have to have a good way of accessing them. Blockchain.info seems like a good place to start but I don't want to abuse ...
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What's the longest chain of orphan blocks? (How many confirmations have been necessary?)

I believe my two title questions are the same (are they?): Heretofore, what is the longest chain of orphan blocks (of N blocks), such that if someone didn't wait for N+1 confirmations, they may have ...
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How often forks occur?

How often do forks occur in the block chain? I'm interested in the small, one block forks that happen when two miners create a block at the similar time.